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Received my file destruction, do I still need a waiver?

append delete Leafs


Last year I received my file destruction and I'd like to know if I still need a waiver? I haven't been to the U.S. since the incident.

Any thoughts?

Thank you.

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append delete #1. Scatcat99

Leafs, question for you is have you ever required/had a waiver before your file was destroyed.
If you are in their system then you are for life.
I had my file destroyed a year ago and still need a waiver every time I cross. Even spoke to the American Consulate and it didn't make a difference.

append delete #2. JOHN ROGERS

the whole idea is you must HIDE the record BEFORE they know about it.

append delete #3. L.S.

Yes you may or may not need a waiver. It will really depend on what your conviction was for. Also, if you were ever in the CBP database then you are in it for life. It is true that if the record is invisible before they see it then that is good thing.

append delete #4. Leafs

I never had an issue crossing over. Just a passport. After my incident a few years ago I started to wonder what should I do. I haven't been over since it happened. It wasn't a conviction. It got dropped.

append delete #5. Leafs

John Rogers
Thats what the file destruction is suppose to do. I think I will get a finger print done and see what comes back. It should be clean.

append delete #6. Leafs


I never had a conviction. It was dropped. Then file destruction done. I haven't been over since the incident.

append delete #7. K SCOTT

Well, Leafs...it still may or may not still show up in the databases...We have seen pardoned convictions still showing up in the database. Plus CBP has other databases that they can use where they may or may not see a conviction. The big thing is what the conviction is for. An example is that if you had a simple DUI...then you would not even have to apply for a waiver and you could save your money. Ken 604 332-9213 usentrywaiverlaw.com

append delete #8. JOHN ROGERS

You do not need a waiver.

append delete #9. Leafs

Thanks John.

I have another question. Say they ask me have you ever been arrested. What is the best way to answer that? If I say no, nothing would show up, it should be clean? If I say yes, and nothing shows up then they will probably tell me I need a waiver.

append delete #10. JOHN ROGERS

Homeland Security knows that asking "have you ever been arrested?" casts a wider net than "do you have a criminal record" and is also effective for catching people hiding their records with a Pardon.

Your answer is always "no".

If you have NEVER been denied entry into the United States, and have removed or sealed your record, ALWAYS say "no".

The biggest controversy in this industry are people doing unnecessary waivers.

A Pardon is 100% effective UNLESS you:

-admit to having a pardon
-Have been caught before your pardon

When you get a Pardon, even our own RCMP cannot see you have a record.

append delete #11. Leafs

Thanks Roger for the very usual information. I will get an RCMP finger print done to be sure.

append delete #12. Challenger392

Leafs I am in the same situation as you. I've been dreading crossing the border for over 10 years. Got my fingerprints "destroyed" 2 years ago.
I am grateful that John Rogers has taken time to leave free info on this forum. Thank you sir

append delete #13. challenger392

I'm tempted to get my prints checked again. I called Peel Region Police, they told me they have nothing on my name. Should be good


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