@John Rogers, what type of record did they have that information can give my light to us :)

TIMELINE

Had 2 clients today call me and say they got their waivers dated July 18th or so and they handed it in in March. Two examples that took closer to 4 months.

@Michelle done!

I think many people would agree that Michelle has given a lot of great advice and I think it would really help her to get some honest reviews about her honesty and expertise. Even if you post that she just gave some free advice, the review itself will help her. Even if done anonymously.

Its not often i give kudos to the competition, but Michelle is absolutely the kind of people we want doing this kind of work in Canada. We need businesses that are honest and have integrity and we should encourage others to use businesses that act in that manner.

I send anyone in Saskatchewan her way. I send anyone in Quebec to another colleague of mine (Manni 514-733-8571) and those are the only referrals I give.

Hi All, I have 1 request to make, if you have found the answers or information I have provided helpful, can you please "google" my website at www.fingerprintpardon.com or fingerprint pardon services Regina and write a review. 99% of my business is referrals, but I am trying to increase my website presence, and in this business testimonials are not readily available nor do I ask for them. I do have 1 bad review for not being open when someone stopped by on a Stat. holiday to have his fingerprints taken and I would like to move that on down the list. Thanks for your time and effort...greatly appreciated..

Jill

#1242

Just to follow up on michelle’s question:

...just to confirm, did you apply 6 months after the 3 year ban was completed? or 6 months into a 3 year ban? Thanks!

#1255 We actually got a September Letter for an individual that had your convictions...although he did not have any DUI offences..Just FYI

Most of your convictions are nothing and I am mostly curious about the Obstruction offence. Reach out to me if you wish and will explain what I mean.

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I think Homeland Security would argue that until its been 150 days they don't consider it "late". Don't forget someone usually is just doing their own waiver, not on a forum like this, so they wouldn't usually know the difference. After it passes 150 days...it is taking a LONG time.

Auto response is simply an auto responder. They will respond after 150 days with an update as far as I'm aware.

however we wont know if we are in secondary until after 150 days has passed... Or are we in secondary because we received the auto response? thanks for your info so far!

in my opinion, the 'possession of a weapon" COULD be what has you in secondary security.

It could also be your personal letter, depending on the level of 'remorse' you expressed.

One of the things to keep in mind is also showing some rehabilitation re: drinking. A conviction for impaired alone is one thing but 8 years later again is sometimes an indicator of a problem that keep cropping up, especially if the other charges involved alcohol.

With a record like that we usually want someone to show WHY they no longer drink to excess with proof of a program (if available)

This is all speculation. We will see when the result comes. The problem is that people see their 2nd 3rd and 4rth waivers as a "fait accompli" because they were granted them in the past, but this version of Homeland Security is proving that is not the case.

1989- Driving with more than 80 mgs of alcohol, driving while disqualified ( prohibted driving 3 months)
1990- obstruct peace officer, posession of a weapon ( Fine and probation)
1997- driving with more than 80 mgs of alcohol. (3 mos nad prohibited driving)

all fines paid
4th waiver

As I have posted on other parts of the Forum, the "follow up" email can be utilized after 150 days. If you get the auto "its in seconday security" after 150 days, then you are in for a Looooong wait. Up to a year or more. You get no real response before 150 days.

These instruction sheets they give you are usually garbage. Even in the old days it was "send an email after 120 days".

What was the offence?

The instruction sheet was dated late 2016, whereas the CBP page on I-192 was updated on May 2018, so if we go with the most recently updated information, it's 150 days after filing date.

applied april 23 at YWG ( I-192). emailed today and received an auto response:

This email address is for questions regarding the status of applications on file with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), Admissibility Review Office (ARO). The ARO is responsible for the following applications: Form I-192, Application for Advance Permission to Enter as Nonimmigrant, Form I-212, Application for Permission to Reapply for Admission into the United States After Deportation or Removal, and Form I-824, Application for Action on an Approved Application or Petition. Please note the ARO will respond to inquiries on the latter form only in those instances where the action is related to obtaining a duplicate approval notice for a Form I-192 or I-212.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Every request for application status must contain the date the application was submitted to CBP. You will receive a follow-up e-mail to your inquiry if you provide this information and your application has been on file with CBP for a minimum of 150-days.

We find this a bit confusing. the instruction sheet says to ask after 90 days ( for submissions to ARO which is what we have done) and that admissions to CBP is 150 days which is indicated in the Important Note part of the auto reply. I read this as 2 separate entities? is that correct?

The waiver from 5 years ago was received before the 90 days was up so we havent had to check on a waiver. ( or been quite so nervous about it being delayed!)

Hi Michelle,

Thanks for sharing. Do you know under what basis they were refused entry? CBP refuses entry to Canadians all the time, even those without any immigration or criminal issues.

The ban would make them inadmissible, and after the ban is over, they would no longer be inadmissible under the same inadmissibility, but CBP for sure would scrutinize them more due to the history of overstay.

So what happened to these clients after they have applied for waivers?

I myself have a ten year bar (8 of which havr been served), but due to removal. My 272 waiver was approved and I was able to enter just fine, but I guess I'd never know whether or not I would have been able to enter without waiver if I never applied.

@1247 WaiveMeln, Hi, I have had clients who tried to enter the USA after a ban time was done, without a waiver, and they were refused. Therefore, I do advise to do a waiver. Anyone here who has had a ban and was allowed to enter once the ban time was completed, without applying for a waiver, please advise...very curious...Thanks!

Yeah, that's true. Canadians, even with unblemished record, do not have the right to enter the US (or any other country really). CBP has the right to reject entry anyone who is not a US citizen. Only US citizenz have unqualified right to enter the United States.

#1247 - WaiveMein

I've heard that in some cases even after a ban is over one does not just automatically have the green light to enter America.

In some cases I've heard that a waiver is still initially needed. On the face of it one could surmise that is counterintuitive but given the draconian immigration laws America has in place one never knows.

I'd really like to know the particulars of this.

Anyone want to weigh-in here ... K SCOTT, JOHN ROGERS, Michelles, etc.... what say you?

After the 3 year ban, surely a waiver would no longer be needed?

She said that she applied 6 months after leaving the US, and 13 months after, she got the waiver.

That's 18 months, and there are still about 18 months left in the ban.

:: @WaiveMeIn added on 20 Jul ’18 · 14:37

I mean, 6 + 13 is 19. Sorry.

@Michelle
#1244

Your question to Jill actually is very astute and would definitely change the “equation” here if it was AFTER the 3 year ban was completed and over.

The ban being over would most certainly change the dynamic of applying for a waiver.